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McLaren seems to have endless "special" models. Today I'm providing my take on McLaren's special models, and I'm going to explain why I think McLaren has too many special cars -- and I'll explain why this is a problem.

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Apis4
Apis4 Pirms 2 Stundām
McLaren doesn't build cars for speculation. I honestly do not think they care about that. They built the F1 to be the greatest expression of what THEY view a car to be, what it should be. A vision informed by their founder before his untimely death. Bruce McLaren was not Preston Tucker, nor was he Henry Ford, or even a Karl Benz or Rene Panhard. He was a born racer, who made it all the way to highest levels as a racer. It is not about what a car looks, or how exclusive it is, or building some Apple style cult bullshit up around the brand. It is about what the car FEELS like, and about what it CAN DO. The GT is a bit of stretch....it is not one... and the layout will inform it's functionality, and feel, and it will not be that of a true GT car like say, Aston Martin, make. But then again... it is probably not really meant to. It is probably just a 'easy' version of the 570. A car meant to make concessions to the octogenarian country club golfer looking for something which can make him look and feel like he's driving a Lamborghini, but is actually much much easier and less murderous to drive than one. McLaren, I suspect, want the people who drive it, and feel special, because of what it does, to be the people who buy McLarens. Not the people who want to feel special because of how rare, or sexy it is. More, that seems to be working for them, so what's it matter if they are not exclusive enough for some, and rich old f*cks who buy cars for status, or style, not capabilities and excitement, laugh at them. They're making money, and building something they love building and so it doesnt matter. There seems to be enough people with money who are also petrol heads, and love their cars because how driving, not looking at, them makes them feel to keep them afloat, that is all that matters.
z_Mr 35_z
z_Mr 35_z Pirms 4 dienām
I thougt you doug had missed the 650s and 675lt😅
Subterranean Camote
Subterranean Camote Pirms 6 dienām
People are now investing in electric supercars and cryptocurrency or else they got nothing in value.
Jason Biggs
Jason Biggs Pirms 22 dienām
They're trying too hard
darkySp
darkySp Pirms 23 dienām
"This is our rarest and bestest car yet. The P1-B. It's the same as the P1, but now in a deep blue color! Only 0.5 of them will be made for a price of 10,000,000"
Harrison Clark
Harrison Clark Pirms 23 dienām
mclaren needs to start sponsoring rappers. Make everyone want them
Stigs722
Stigs722 Pirms 27 dienām
Doug about the get car jacked. “Before you car jack me be sure to check out cars and bids”
Andrew
Andrew Pirms 29 dienām
This guy does not know what he's talking about. Maybe with other things but not this!
Andrew
Andrew Pirms 29 dienām
McLaren have done the same as Ferrari. Ferrari have the 458, 458 Spider, 458 Speciale, 488, 488 GTB, 488 Pista. McLaren are fine!!!!!!!
Iqbal Hussein
Iqbal Hussein Pirms Mēneša
Mclaren having too many models = less special = depreciation = THIS IS A GOOD THING
Remi Ramos
Remi Ramos Pirms Mēneša
I'm a fan of McLaren, and I didn't even know the Sabre existed lol.
Ninja Sushi
Ninja Sushi Pirms Mēneša
1:44 Don't get too excited hot shot. You have *sixteen times* the amount of subscribers so I HOPE you would get more views.. Math and all.
FA DD
FA DD Pirms Mēneša
Well at least they they don't make SUVs or Minivans .
ItsSigmaa
ItsSigmaa Pirms Mēneša
Mclaren’s peak was at the 675LT
ItsSigmaa
ItsSigmaa Pirms Mēneša
The funniest thing to me is that 570s’ are going for more than the 650s’
Robbie Tobin
Robbie Tobin Pirms Mēneša
Could you do more videos like this where you just talk about your opinions on various car brands, this video was really refreshing and interesting
GhostShock
GhostShock Pirms Mēneša
Seems pretty smart to me. Sell overprieced cars to people with money to burn and keep giving them stupid names and ugly paint jobs. You gotta remember doug - they are trying to make money. Please don't ask me to have sympathy for car Speculators. haha
xXcashXx3
xXcashXx3 Pirms Mēneša
My thing is they all look tomuch the same i cant tell any of them apart
Vetteboy Z06
Vetteboy Z06 Pirms Mēneša
First world problems
My penis is small, but
My penis is small, but Pirms Mēneša
I knew every McLaren up until the Senna then I lost track. I think McLaren should take that 4L V8 they love so much and make a front engined car.
stingrayfins
stingrayfins Pirms Mēneša
Doug is 100% right. I've been feeling this way for years. I see McLarens everywhere. I feel like there's a new one every year and it look largely the same.
율아치
율아치 Pirms Mēneša
6:59
Jakob Williams
Jakob Williams Pirms Mēneša
McLaren is a fast and furious movie at this point.
Dre Wilkinson
Dre Wilkinson Pirms Mēneša
The 540c and 570 gt are pointless
Kerry Blight
Kerry Blight Pirms Mēneša
Need some views Doug? Ridiculous comments about Mclaren - lets jump on a bandwagon no Dougy boy!!!
Tuan Nayr
Tuan Nayr Pirms Mēneša
butthurt
Bud The Cyborg
Bud The Cyborg Pirms Mēneša
How much does the 765LT cost? From what I've heard that car is an amazing value and "should" sell like hotcakes.
Jake Cartisano
Jake Cartisano Pirms Mēneša
Doug you forgot the 675lt and is the 600lt still on sale?
•_
•_ Pirms Mēneša
Mclaren treats their cars as babies. Each one of them is special in their own way.
Ashimoto Super Deluxe
Ashimoto Super Deluxe Pirms Mēneša
Next is the McLaren Pro XL no headphone jack model
Driving Business
Driving Business Pirms Mēneša
I'm a bit late to the party, but I've got a couple cents I may as well contribute. I think McLaren has a bigger issue on its hands. It's more or less common knowledge that McLaren was in some financial trouble a few years ago. From the perspective of an automotive and business fan, McLaren is a little tough to admire. Adding to your points, there's just too much to follow. I like Lamborghini and Porsche because they are straightforward. I think McLaren loses prospective buyers on the notion that there's just too much to track. I also appreciate the vehicles, but I would never want to own one. Rarity and "specialness" aside, so many McLarens seem to have a "but." It's a great car BUT there's a good chance the wiring will give you problems. It's a good car BUT the transmission acts up. It's a fun car BUT it might catch on fire. Some are quick to argue that that's just to be expected with these niche, low-production, often hand-built supercars. This is absolutely true to a certain extent, but brands like Ferrari and Lamborghini are miles ahead of where they were at the turn of the century. It seems like where some brands focused on internal quality, McLaren has focused on remaining on the cutting edge vs. creating a balance between competitive raw performance capabilities and establishing a track record of reliability. It's like McLaren read all the "I can make a Honda Civic just as fast with half the money" comments from over the years and made that approach their business model. In layman's terms, I think the bigger issue is McLaren is still in trouble. I don't think they've got a fever and the only cure is more models. I think making these arguably minimal changes to existing platforms could be a last ditch effort by McLaren to stay alive by pinching the pennies needed to create special, while charging more. Considering the Uber-special cars like the Senna and Sabre, I think McLaren hopes their customers don't drive the cars that often. Regardless of the individual circumstances, every Senna that caught on fire is a bad look for the company. McLaren assuredly understands they don't rank the highest in reliability, but I think they're taking a unique approach to solving the problem. In this day and age with a LVlocalr and media outlet lurking around every corner, there is no hiding and hoping issues go away. I think McLaren should (or should have) accept their flaws, disclose their way forward with the public, and focus on proving to the automotive world they can master a handful of models and stand shoulder to shoulder with giants, not as the production underdog with the old racing pedigree, but as a company looking towards the future with products that can take the heat.
Wamuu chan
Wamuu chan Pirms Mēneša
The McLaren Benny Hill GT will be the next ground braking model
Slowpoke Tube
Slowpoke Tube Pirms Mēneša
Still missing 650s and 675lt
Ma La No Si
Ma La No Si Pirms Mēneša
Cargo space😂😂
Raul Soto
Raul Soto Pirms Mēneša
McLaren remembers me of Lamborghini with the Gallardo and the 20 variants of the same car
Karaf
Karaf Pirms Mēneša
From viewer perspective it feels very much true. There's so many reviews of McLaren cars like it feels we get new McLaren every half a year.
JAG 0937 EB
JAG 0937 EB Pirms Mēneša
mcclaren sax
Louisjc Di Milano
Louisjc Di Milano Pirms Mēneša
Just to remind that McLaren also had a car called 688, just a little more “special” than 675LT...and now guess nobody even knows it anymore...McLaren truely screw up their lineup, it was such a potential supercar brand
F K
F K Pirms Mēneša
Wrong most of those cars are not produced anymore. Now its Arturo basmodell 720S Topmodell in regular linup 765LT 720s special Edition before the bew generation top modell comes out like a Lambo SV or SVJ And then there are the special Modells Senna (also the GTR Version that is track only) Speedtail Elva Sabre Not so different from other supercar companies Aston has the Valkyrie Valhalla Speedster DB5 remake All the bond and F1 special editions.... And Also Vanquish DBS DBX As normal cars Ferrari also has a lot of cars including the sf90 the Monzas and so on...
Gerogy Zurkov
Gerogy Zurkov Pirms Mēneša
Most of recent AM special do feel special. Valkyire for example is design by the same guy who made a lot of championship winning cars from Indy to F1 the latter of which is his spotlight. (ironically also Mclaren too.) So that edition is very special especially when it's said design from that guy to be the closest to F1 which that wording would be actually not as far fetch as the others claim that. When it comes from one of the best F1 designers so his claims do hold weight. Ferrari SF90 isn't even a special edition. Yes it has a lettering of one. Thing is though from whatever info is on it. The car isn't some limited edition piece and is more "unlimited production" as in Ferrari will sell as much as the market is willing to buy it. That's not even close to a special edition production in definition a Special edition when Ferrari is talking making as much as it is ordered. Especially when u talking Ferrari special editions. Monza is special edition yes, but it's tribute to their history and shows where Ferrari is going. And it's very much rare to see a Ferrari speedster.
Bennidict Salvador
Bennidict Salvador Pirms Mēneša
Doug forgot the 720s GT3X
Anovuyo Tindleni
Anovuyo Tindleni Pirms Mēneša
did he even mention the 675lt 🤣
Justice Warrior
Justice Warrior Pirms Mēneša
I see this video and start laughing thinking about Pagani.... 10 years ago Pagani said it would be making the LAST Zonda special... Last year they still released a new one... They literally only made two models (Zonda and Huayra) and milked the living SHIT out of them!!!. They still use the same cheap Mercedes twin turbo V12 that's 20 years old!!! Yes 20!!! They overprice their cars into ridiculous levels and stupid millionaires still buy them even though they are paying millions for a different body panels on a 20 year old car!! At least McLaren makes their own engines and the models are different and brand new technology!!
Mitchell Robinson
Mitchell Robinson Pirms Mēneša
I can't even describe or remember which model is which anymore, because they are all named after numbers
Jay Makin Gains
Jay Makin Gains Pirms Mēneša
McLaren should have stretched these different cars over the years. They throwing cars out over a year like they going out of business soon Like Doug said at the end “McLaren should slow it down” lol
walentkane69
walentkane69 Pirms Mēneša
The only McLaren I know and care about is F1
olympique1000
olympique1000 Pirms Mēneša
Doug forgot also a McLaren Senna LM, another special version of a special version. It's never too much for McLaren and never will be.
TenorCantusFirmus
TenorCantusFirmus Pirms Mēneša
"It's becoming a bit of a disaster" - McLaren is forcing this man into having to review a new limited edition supercar every month or so, who would like every disaster in the World to be something like that?...
Skanda
Skanda Pirms Mēneša
I don’t think he’s forced
dinner_thief
dinner_thief Pirms Mēneša
In Houston, there's a McLaren with "MCLOVN" as the plates.... I had a good laugh driving down 59!
Abdallah Mahamat
Abdallah Mahamat Pirms Mēneša
Can someone tell what is the blue car that is in his cars and bids advertisement background?
Skanda
Skanda Pirms Mēneša
jaguar xkrs
S L
S L Pirms Mēneša
Just coming from the Sabre video, it's very true! It's not special if every McLaren is special.
Sid Green
Sid Green Pirms Mēneša
They make so many McLarens that their cars are not really exclusive at all
Got memes?
Got memes? Pirms Mēneša
i can genuinely not tell most mclaren models apart let alone know what model name it is
AB-80X
AB-80X Pirms Mēneša
This is exactly why there will not be a Ferrari F8 VS. This is also a sign of McLaren not being out of their financial problems yet. A shame they did not learn a damn thing.
scruffs by Cartoon Fish
All supercar manufacturers are going the same way! Haven't McLaren recently sold their special factory cos of sales?
scruffs by Cartoon Fish
There are too many supercars on the market overall, they don't seem special anymore
scruffs by Cartoon Fish
Try naming all the Mercedes and BMW models!
scruffs by Cartoon Fish
Lamborghini has the same problem
scruffs by Cartoon Fish
All the cars look the same and are basically the same..........and none look as good as the MP4-12C!
Dr. Ray
Dr. Ray Pirms Mēneša
McLarens are SOOOOOO BORING besides the F1
lapamful
lapamful Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
When you think of the history of British car makers, I mean who isn't in trouble? Jaguar, Aston Martin, Lotus, Land Rover and now if McLaren keeps this up they'll be headed in the same direction...
Gerogy Zurkov
Gerogy Zurkov Pirms Mēneša
Rolls and Bentley too.
obs1dian _01
obs1dian _01 Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
They're still insanely fast and are great cars, I honestly don't get the problem here.
Gerogy Zurkov
Gerogy Zurkov Pirms Mēneša
The problem is Brand devaluation which Mclaren are doing. To us mere cheap mortals those two parts hold true. To the actual guys who buy these expensive piece of kits it is not good. Cause it will be worry that Mclaren will keep on devaluing their cars and Branding to the point non don't want their cars. That's the true and ultimate market of which Ferrari have cornered.
-
- Pirms Mēneša
they are fast, its just when you are buying a car in that price range you want some thing really special and rare.
mozaic
mozaic Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
Somebody call Schmee, he's crying.
Dunkaccino25
Dunkaccino25 Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
I love McLaren to no end, but holy shit this is spot on. I consider myself a McLaren fanboy, but a lot of the models are beginning to blend, and trying to remember what they are isn’t ideal, even for a massive fan like myself.
JERMA SUS
JERMA SUS Pirms Mēneša
@Dunkaccino25 Hes right bud!If you like something you are obligated to blindly follow and agree!
Dunkaccino25
Dunkaccino25 Pirms Mēneša
@Kerry Blight Shiiiit you right 😭
Kerry Blight
Kerry Blight Pirms Mēneša
Then you are not really a Mclaren fan are you?!!
xeno speed
xeno speed Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
The Artura got a new engine and transmission. Also a plug-in hybrid. Finally not another 12C evolution.
Daniel Cronan
Daniel Cronan Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
Doug, I have to confess that is how I am beginning to feel about not just the McLarens, but the other exotic cars/hypercars/supercars that you have been uploading lately. I mean, hey ARE beautiful, don't get me wrong, but when it seems like all you review lately are multi-million dollar exotics/hypercars/supercars that your average viewer will never have a snowball's chance in Hell of ever being able to afford, we do start to get quite sick of it, & it gets VERY old after a while
Jason Agnoli
Jason Agnoli Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
Cool video, thanks
Abhay Rana
Abhay Rana Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
If I had the means to purchase a McLaren, and drive it around on the regular (no sense in letting these beauties rest in the garage - they need to be driven, and (at times) hard) - the one I'd want is the 2020 McLaren GT 3:39
Joseph Brogna
Joseph Brogna Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
This reminds me of the best quote ever “With everyone super, no one will be”
Virag Gupta
Virag Gupta Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
Lmao you forgot about the 650s and the 675 lt
nashville slim
nashville slim Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
Doug is going to have to watch his back after throwing that much shade at McClaren. I'd be happy with a c8 and never mind.
Fernando Garcia
Fernando Garcia Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
This reminds me of James May talking about tesco taste the difference cheese.
Justice Warrior
Justice Warrior Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
I see this video and start laughing thinking about Pagani.... 10 years ago Pagani said it would be making the LAST Zonda special... Last year they still released a new one... They literally only made two models (Zonda and Huayra) and milked the living SHIT out of them!!!. They still use the same cheap Mercedes twin turbo V12 that's 20 years old!!! Yes 20!!! They overprice their cars into ridiculous levels and stupid millionaires still buy them even though they are paying millions for a different body panels on a 20 year old car!! At least McLaren makes their own engines and the models are different and brand new technology!!
D3aTHMaGNeTiC
D3aTHMaGNeTiC Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
''THISSSSS...is a problem'' That hit differently!
Elizes Vázquez
Elizes Vázquez Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
Today McLaren has sold its headquarters in Woking for £170m as part of a sale-and-leaseback deal aimed at reducing debt and "underpinning the Group's strengthened financial position". McLaren has agreed a 20-year-lease on the site as part of the deal -so today McLaren declared without saying a word they are broke
Matt Stanford
Matt Stanford Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
I liked the Ford LTD: Limited to....exactly as many as we can possibly sell
Caden Hitchcock
Caden Hitchcock Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
This reminds me of Apple, releasing phones every two months
dReamSociety
dReamSociety Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
570s are mad cheap rn a great used car buy!
Gringo Starr
Gringo Starr Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
Totally agree with you on this one
rafal blasiak
rafal blasiak Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
My neighbors have a 570s
Mat
Mat Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
I still think the MP4 12 C is just gorgeous and peak McLaren barring the F1. I will say I do like the McLaren GT, though, it just has a more subtle-ish design and it works nicely.
Frank Boyce
Frank Boyce Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
I will say this makes a really strong argument for why the 675LT is the best McLaren to own (outside of P1 or F1 obviously).
Frankie Teo
Frankie Teo Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
The British called this "bespoked" without each costing multi-million dollar price tags like Koeniggsegg!. McLaren track cars are for the special few who really crave the "feel" they cannot get from a Porsche or Ferrari.....
Prince Zuko
Prince Zuko Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
"THHISS, is a problem 😟"
filo_
filo_ Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
675 LT? 650S? Senna GTR? Senna LM? Senna GTR LM? P1 GTR? All the spyder models (675 LT Spyder, etc...?
Angolo Home
Angolo Home Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
What about the 675lt?????
Jarno Aalbers
Jarno Aalbers Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
Arent people gonna talk about Bugatti ..... Chiron Chiron500+ Chiron super sport Chiron pur sport Chiron 110 Ans Chiron French ww|| plane fighters (Divo whos almost the same) Veyron Veyron ss Veyron Rembrandt Veyron Grand sport Veyron Grand sport Vitesse Veyron 16.4 In my opinion Bugatti is way worse then McLaren
F-16c Thunderbird
F-16c Thunderbird Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
Can you do review on El Chapo's F1?
JC Cole
JC Cole Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
This video will make sense to perhaps only 0.01% of your viewers. The absolute vast majority of the people who love these cool cars don't really care about their resale values, we want more carmakers to make more cool cars for us to look at.
jakjbs13
jakjbs13 Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
Doug, your assumption is that they are building these cars for the U.S. market, but they are building it for the world market. And, places like Dubai (might be their biggest market) thrive on exclusivity and NOT having a car like someone else. Having 58 versions of the same car is attractive because they are "different" than their neighbor's car.
Jerac
Jerac Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
Those cars and bids ads are getting annoying. Maybe if the site was less US-centric and had any offer available for people outside US?
scuba site
scuba site Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
Aventador, Aventador Roadster, S, S Roadster, SV, SV Roadster, SVJ, SVJ Roadster, SVJ 63, SVJ 63 Roadster, Xago, Sian, Centenario, Centenario Roadster, Veneno, Veneno Roadster, J, Sc18, SC20, is that enough for you?
fleetwood
fleetwood Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
This video is a disaster, Doug do you research, the 570 and the GT are NOT the same car, different motor, etc.... Speedtail isn't the same as ANY of the cars... The Sabre was sold out before they made it, so was the Speedtail.
Speed Hunter
Speed Hunter Pirms Mēneša
NAHH, thery're the same
Tuan Nayr
Tuan Nayr Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
looks same to me
urubufedido
urubufedido Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
$1 million in 90s >>> $1 million in 2021
Olivia Lambert
Olivia Lambert Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
They look all the same to me - more or less.
JP_CA
JP_CA Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
You absolutely hit the nail on the head with this video. I’ve felt the same way for years - I get totally lost in their lineup. If everything is special, nothing is! In my opinion, things went downhill as soon as they introduced the 650S - a car that had mismatched styling front to rear and a car which made their flagship P1 look like a base model.
Gareth Wigglesworth
Gareth Wigglesworth Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
Picking my nose whilst listening.
nlpnt
nlpnt Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
All McLaren is missing from the classic British sports car formula are taillights obviously borrowed from a mass-market production car. Are they still on good enough terms with Honda to get a stock of Civic ones?
El Singon
El Singon Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
All these in less then 5 years...
Leyan Clasi
Leyan Clasi Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
McLarens are shit - except for the P1
HisXLNC
HisXLNC Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
McLarens are becoming the Jeep Wranglers and Ford Mustangs of super cars.
Stephan van den Brink
Stephan van den Brink Pirms 2 Mēnešiem
Mclaren has zero appeal to me. The interiors look crap and cheap, the exterior is very bland design (could be a random sports car in a GTA game) then there's the whole maintenance and service nightmare.
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